104. The Transition Generation: Redefining Fatherhood and Partnership with Maple founder Michael Perry

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104. The Transition Generation: Redefining Fatherhood and Partnership with Maple founder Michael Perry

Dr. Ashley Blackington

Nov 14, 2025

For more than 100 episodes, AND/BOTH has shared conversations with women navigating identity, care, and capacity — and this week, the conversation widens.

In this episode, I sit down with Michael Perry, founder and CEO of Maple, to talk about what it means to be part of what he calls “the transition generation” — a time when fathers are learning to show up differently, families are renegotiating what partnership looks like, and the systems that support us are still catching up.

Michael is a father of two, a husband, and a founder who’s building technology designed to make the invisible work of family visible, to help parents collaborate better, share responsibilities, and stay connected in the chaos.

We talk about what’s shifting in modern parenthood, what’s still broken, and how we can bring more empathy, participation, and grace into our homes, without turning our families into another project to manage.

💛 In this episode, we talk about:

What it means to be part of the “transition generation” of fathers
Why partnership is more than division of labor, it’s shared leadership
The systems that fail families (and what it might look like to rebuild them)
How to have better conversations at home about what’s working and what isn’t
The difference between intention and participation
Why grace and gratitude are essential tools in family life
And how to find your 8 out of 10 days — the perspective shift that can change everything